I read that the original H'bird from the early 60's were built to replicate Martin's D body style, and did not have scalloped bracing. While it would appear M. Flame has made up his mind, it might be worth pointing out that while, yes, the AJ puts out the basses (+), its top end and chord sound can be a bit, uhm, bracing (-). Gibson G-45 Standard. "maple jumbos at dawn it is then." The Bird, like most square shoulder dreads, accentuates low tones, so what Z is saying is that he appreciates the "bass bias" of the bird. It has a tonal quality that is unmatched. As for SJ 200' date=' I already tested one and I didn't like it. Em7, all I need is another guitar right now...lol... My wife would kill me and that would be the nicest thing she would do. Do they sound the same? The true vintages sound even better. Been reading that the j-45 is most versital guitar and can be used for many different types of playing.   You cannot paste images directly. Really the differences in tone compared to the Hummingbird were minor. But really, you can't go wrong either way. If I had none of the three, I'd hope for a chance to play all three before I picked one. I also believe the Dove is a more rare guitar. (I have a Doves In Flight.). J45 studio and J15 standard are the same thing. It may not have so much brightness, but it is more balanced, at least to me, being a little bit bassier than the J45. I have never had that with another guitar, an actual physical yearning in my fingers to pick it up. I am a confirmed SJ nut' date=' my SJ200 is very balanced and is a great all-rounder, but I have played some that are very bass-light. It could not be counted upon to give FF the plummy warmth and sweetness of Big Bird. Search past threads. Its the dry amp of acoustics. I think a Hummingbird is a great all-round choice...special looks, knockout tone and wonderful playability. Pm me I’m a Gibson Dealer. I'm happy beyond words that I made this my first high end guitar purchase. The 45 is actually better balanced, string to string, but the stika/hog combo can be jangly, and is not for everybody. Thanks I need to read all this . A great marketing idea, as I played guitars I had never seen in stores. Thanks for the replies guys. with capo transposer, play along with guitar, piano, ukulele & … share. I'd pick the Dove, primarily BECAUSE I have a Hummingbird and a J45. Lastly, I can't overstate how wonderful the J-45 is for songwriting. I use 012 strings and am very happy with the sound, being exactly what I expected. 5 months ago. Truss Rod Cover Les Paul Standard $19.99. A quick sum up: J45 Id wager is the most versatile: tubby bass, good bark, clear singing top end top. Sellers are OK to order them but they have none in their store so I don't know their real sound. The Robert Johnson model......I hate to say it almost, but it's a gem. I've played a half dozen or more, and have played it side by side to the J-45 and Hummingbird and both had more bass and were louder. I beg to difer with you on the use of Maple in acoustic guitars. Clear editor. Even though I’m about to sell my ‘18 J45, I would choose both, because they both are good for different things. Taylor 814ce V-Class. Looks and sounds incredible! (I also have an '04 J-45 'hog and love it to death.) I am having the guitar built with a standard classical neck/bridge arrangement, including a completely flat fingerboard. Personally the J-45 would be my choice of the three. If you like the J-45 you really can't go wrong with that either. The custom shop montana 60's hummingbird is $2200, Their all mint guitars so their price is a great value. Then J-45 is your guitar, but best to play it first as they really vary guitar to guitar. However, these two kinds of instruments differ in features and style. Gibson J-45 Standard Vintage Sunburst The World-Famous Workhorse The J-45 is Gibson's best-selling acoustic of all time. (Image credit: Phil Barker / Future) Feel & Sounds. Copyright 2019 Gibson Brands, Inc. All rights reserved. I guess with the scallop braces, one doesn't have to wait 40 years for it to sound "old". You won't be disappointed!! If I could only have one of the three..... for me, (and this is such a personal thing), I'd want the Dove. I am a confirmed SJ nut, my SJ200 is very balanced and is a great all-rounder, but I have played some that are very bass-light. Again, not to take a thing away from the J-45. 1 Options Backplate Combo $22.99. I like that a lot as I'm not a huge guy. I've never played a dove but always loved their looks and such a iconic guitar. I love the long scale.   You cannot paste images directly. Ladd279, January 29, 2013 in Gibson Acoustic. The unmistakable Gibson Hummingbird is followed by the masses as one of the most remarkable acoustic guitars ever built. By submitting this form you are agreeing to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy. Besides, if a player longs for warmth, deep bass, and ringing trebles (as an affacianado of the Hummingbird might), then the J200 will not pass muster. When I first played a J-45 I thought that it was closest in having that big bass sound and so forth, and it is, but the Bird's is just a little more and has a warmth to it, that I don't know how to explain. More lightly braced hence more responsive. By It is not that the J45 sounded bad' date=' it is that I prefer the sound of the HB... My J-45 (2007) was purchased new but needed a good deal of fret work due to a bump in the neck. He's one of my favorite players, and frankly, I'm not crazy about Gibson using his name like they are on the guitar when he probably paid $20 bucks for his, but it's an incredible sounding guitar. Gibson Hummingbird Standard Acoustic-Electric Guitar (with Case) $3,849.00. lol[/color']. A quick sum up: J45 Id wager is the most versatile: tubby bass, good bark, clear singing top end top. It's doesn't overpower the voice, allowing the song to shine through. I guess my thought too is to play and let the guitar choose you. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE! level 1. Thanks. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. The compact series come standard with many of the same features offered on larger models. Actually I need a powerful sound, with a lot of bass and a lot of brightness, you know what I mean. I think that the HC is half way between the MC & TV, because there is no pickups in the HC's. The J-45 is Gibson's best-selling acoustic of all time. Hogs are great for balance, rosewood is king for warmth, but maple? However, I may end treating myself to a Martin D-18 or Hummingbird someday. Beyond that, I'm just giving an opinion. I think a Hummingbird is a great all-round choice...special looks, knockout tone and wonderful playability. Now I have a Takamine Jumbo EN 20 and when I record a song I use a microphone (Shure SM 57). I want one! $250.00/mo. Listen to samples on Ytube. Many of us envy your situation. It is hard find even a good sound clip of one anywhere. I want to own one day own one along with a J-200, but for my money, hands down, the best sounding guitar I have heard or played, is the Hummingbird. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. [26] For the reasons already stated previously, this is a distinction that finds no basis in the Act nor in Mr. Justice Gibson’s Order. 90's models would be a good be place to start listening. Model: # AC4518VSNH. I'd pick the Dove, primarily BECAUSE I have a Hummingbird and a J45. First, you won't regret the purchase of either. I challenge you to a duel!! Like Master Cunkhead once said. good one! S Salt ››› ’10 Angelina Jolie, Liev Schreiber. First Ive heard of these bolts yesterday I think it was.. Im a purist,I only like change when it is a definite improvement. Actually, I think maple is not so good for acoustic guitars. The Gibson G-45 Studio & Standard are the new duo of the ” Round Shoulder ” models.   Pasted as rich text. I think you are missing out on a lot of other wonderful sounds. I say if you want a hummingbird, then order one.   Your previous content has been restored. What years are the bolts used and what are/were they there for? It just sounds better. And if you still can't pick one, I would give the nod to the J-45. There's no power nor bass. A lot depends on what you play: strum fingersytle, folk rock etc---? It is not that the J45 sounded bad, it is that I prefer the sound of the HB... Couldn't have said it better! Terms & Conditions | Registered Trademarks. That's an odd prejudice. 1 Options ... Gibson Brands, Inc. respects your right to privacy. It's your choice. Original Price: $ 3,175.00 CDN Write a Review. Those suckers moves the air, but they are more resoundin' than ringin'.   Your link has been automatically embedded. One day I went trying to really make a decision on which one to buy. By The distinction drawn by Mr. Stanchfield between his capacity as a natural person and his capacity to act in some other way is entirely of his own doing, and is devoid of any support in the case law. ... Save gibson j45 standard to get e-mail alerts and updates on your eBay Feed. Considering all three are in mint condition, the playability of each guitar would be the big thing for me. lol. Nicknamed "The Workhorse" and first introduced in 1942, this iconic acoustic has become the cornerstone of its round-shoulder, dreadnought line. Lol. Related: gibson hummingbird gibson j45 vintage gibson acoustic guitar gibson j45 studio gibson j45 custom gibson j15 gibson southern jumbo martin d35. It will be my next one lord willing and the river don't rise. Gibson Company produces different varieties of guitars with different versions. I feel you prefer hummingbird but you didn't tell me why. Powerful sound ? It sounds like you are looking for one very narrowly defined sound and all others are not worthy. I own a Hummingbird, but the J-45 is an incredible instrument. As for SJ 200, I already tested one and I didn't like it. because you have that elsewhere), a broken in, long scaled Dove is a dream of a guitar. The songwriter and songwriter deluxe......excellent guitars! Reply. I had a Hummingbird, once upon a time, but couldn't get past the bling, was afraid I might scratch it or something. Play as many as you can and pick the one that sings to you. Gibson Hummingbird was the second most expensive acoustic guitar until the Gibson Dove arrived. I'd pick the Dove, primarily BECAUSE I have a Hummingbird and a J45. A little bigger than I expected, and a lot bigger sound. If you like maple and can do without the 'edges' of hog and rose (f.x. All the newer ones now have scalloped bracing. Finally, I pulled the trigger and bought a MC Hummingbird in Vintage Sunburst from the USA. I worked with Graham Gouldman from 10CC recently, and he has a great SJ200 from '07, which sounds terrific but very light on the bottom end. If you want big bass, get an AJ. You probably have three real good guitars within reach - to be honest I don't think we should choose for you. Copyright 2019 Gibson Brands, Inc. All rights reserved. Blindfolded, his and mine would seem to be utterly different guitars. Buy the one that is not at a Guitar Center..semi joking. All three are gems. Forget about it! Please take a look at the Sheryl Crow model as well. Should play em & compare...ever since I heard the J45 has a couple of bolts under bridge I wouldn't go looking for that..I'd try & find a J45 TV to try instead. It was first introduced in 1947, and since then the guitar has set and unmatched standard. However, they don't have pickups. For me it had too much trebles and no (or little) bass. I have to get many details beacause as I said before, here it's impossible to play them in a store because no one has them. As for the modern classic and true vintage models, I've played both side by side. HB TV for $2200 ... you must be joking, where ? The store I played them at had a great selection of both, and once there was a mobile Gibson truck that had stopped by on a day I visited. This should be a lot of fun for you. Again, the SJ-200 sounded fine, but not like the others. Blindfolded, his and mine would seem to be utterly different guitars. If I were you I'd go with the Dove. The j-45 is least expensive out of the 3 but sounds amazing and kit as good as the other 2. I worked with Graham Gouldman from 10CC recently, and he has a great SJ200 from '07, which sounds terrific but very light on the bottom end. The bass thumps, the trebles die quick, the overtones are MIA. I guess I've been curious about maple for years. The back opened up and they had a few dozen guitars on disply, tuned up and let anyone strolling by play what they wanted to. Upload or insert images from URL. That clear thumping bass, balanced and unflinching midtone, and clean bell-like treble; all combine to produce the iconic tone of the J45. My buddy owns one, and damned if it isn't one of the most spectacular-sounding guitars I've ever played. On a side note, my 61’ J45 doesn’t really sound very J45 to me, not as much thump (but still has VERY good bass response) and better sustain, with all the notes being a bit more even, which works a little better for me. Coming back to the acoustic guitars by Gibson, the Gibson Guitar’s legacy of “King of the Flat-Tops” lives on in this J-200 Gibson Guitar. I beg to difer with you on the use of Maple in acoustic guitars. I know there's no preamp on TV models and I like that but is it really interesting for me since TV are more expensive than MC ? i hope to see one at the michigan guitar show on the 30th. Thanks everybody. Report Save. Also, I've always been curious regarding the Dove. However, with regards to the Hummingbird, my artists series sounds closer to the true vintage than the modern classic. Product page for Gibson Acoustic instruments J-45 Cutaway We use cookies to understand how you use our site, give you an awesome experience, and deliver our services. Since these are high-end guitars, expect that they’ll cost a few grand. 1 Options Control Plate $14.99. I went more or less through the same process ( I live in Spain, very difficult to try this kind of guitars), so I asked a lot of questions about the Hummingbird in different forums (including this one). Product Registration Customer Service Repair and Restoration Report Counterfeits Serial Number FAQ Gibson Guitar Specs (2015-2019) Dealer Resource Center Locate A I owned a J45 Standard from 2013 that I gifted to my gigging partner. Me, I'd tend toward the J, but... after playing all three I might have a totally different feeling. Places where, guitaristically, less is more. I challenge you to a duel!! They were before the MC and I don't think they were made for very long. Don't know if it was because it was a Washburn or because it was maple.......Still, already having "the bird" and a J45 I'd very likely go with the Dove. Paste as plain text instead, × 1 Options P-90 / P-100 Pickup Covers $16.99. Love me, hate me, I don't care. to play but there isnt one within 3500K of here. I play mainly rock, pop and folk, strumming, not so much fingerpicking. I'm sure I will have a great sound with a Gibson acoustic because I already have three solid body guitars and they sound good. One thing that's worth mentioning: the J-45, with it's sloped shoulders, is a smaller guitar. Not even sure why they stopped. The only other option was a J45 which was about $2200, $800 cheaper than the other two. Not so Birds-- the 25.5 scale ones before 99 dont have the sound. It's not the guitar that you pick, it's the guitar that picks you. hmm........ are you sure you played an SJ200???? I'd buy the J-45...but then I have a couple of Doves and a 'Bird already! Perhaps a smaller-bodied rosewood guitar would also be a good choice. "Finding a good SJ-200 is like falling out of a boat and finding water." Turn heads with this unique J-45 Studio, hand-built using rosewood back and sides with a Sitka spruce top. I'll try to stop buy guitar center on way from work so I can play them. Actually, I think maple is not so good for acoustic guitars. It's a wonderful strummer, but I also enjoy for fingerpicking. I love the slope shoulders. It sounds like you are looking for one very narrowly defined sound and all others are not worthy. Welcome aboard, whats your style of playing ? Very tinny, perhaps if you are into folk more than I am. If you like maple and can do without the 'edges' of hog and rose (f.x. There's no power nor bass. Hey guys just joined so I could get some more views on this. I think you are missing out on a lot of other wonderful sounds. Just make sure it can be returned if it's not what you thought it would be. Frankly, I just don't get it. I have never heard such an imposing wall of tone in all my days. Play them all. The Blues King is a top notch guitar. I guess its ace in the hole is that deep, dry thump you get from pickin' single notes on a J-200. I have not played a real old one - anyone here have? Honestly, with it's reputation and size, I expected more from the SJ-200. The 45 is actually better balanced, string to string, but the stika/hog combo can be jangly, and is not for everybody.   Your previous content has been restored. Include description. Departments > Guitars > Acoustic Guitars > Acoustic Dreadnought > Gibson > 2018 J45 Standard. I 'think" from reading todd's post that he has a "Hummingbird Artist"? Learn more at epiphone.com. I've played a hummingbird before and loved it but I've read that customshop Montana's are suppose to be 10x's better. ... 5 months ago. Gary Davis or Ernie Hawkins on YT. Mersey, if you won't touch a Gibson flattop with bridge bolts then you are leaving most vintage Gibsons for the rest of us. The J-45 and J-45 Extended Cutaway go for $699 and $749. The Arlo Guthrie model wasn't impressive. Hardly played it. Display as a link instead, × Product Registration Customer Service Repair and Restoration Report Counterfeits Serial Number FAQ Gibson Guitar Specs (2015-2019) Dealer Resource Center Locate A that hog (remember that tree guy that gave us heck for saying "hog"?) By submitting this form you are agreeing to the Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy. However........... if you plan on gigging, recording, etc. The Bird, like most square shoulder dreads, accentuates low tones, so what Z is saying is that he appreciates the "bass bias" of the bird. I tried to find some test on YouTube but no one has both so I heard one with one guy and the other with another man so it's impossible to compare. If you want big bass, get an AJ. Upload or insert images from URL. j100 is on my short list (what isn't?) Gibson produces the world’s most famous Gibson Les Paul electric guitars. Regardless of the model or style, I have played all of those and in my opinion they are in the elite class of guitars that my money could ever buy. 800-996-8637. An SJ-200 may be a lot of things, but "weak" is not one of them!! World-renowned for its full, balanced expression, warm bass and excellent projection, the J-45 has … All guitar companies make a few duds. Find what works for you. Now I imagine their sound and I think I will order a Hummingbird in True Vintage. For more guitar gear news, click here. Do, however, make sure that you have some sort of return policy. The quality of workmanship is exceptional. Doc, dont think you are alone about maple. I still get to play it often at gigs. Display as a link instead, × Weak.......?????????????????????????????????? Mention Priority Code: 201-RJ53 Email Us. What are the differences between both ?. Flatpick, fingerpick, works in a lot of styles (Blues to Beatles to Bluegrass to Busking). It's not just a simple version of the Hummingbird, it's different!! Balance generally refers to string to string volume across the tonal spectrum. The Bird moves more air and has a deeper sound than … Let Us Help You + Let Us Help You. The Bird moves more air and has a deeper sound than the J45, but less cut/brilliance. This past March, I made one of my dreams come true by buying a Gibson J45. Sale Price: $ 2,699.00 CDN. Can you play all three and then decide? Also, I've always been curious regarding the Dove. + 7 S … Finished with a Fishman Sonitone pickup for easy studio quality plug and play anywhere. Wow, you must have tried the only SJ-200 dud in existence! 4 Options Truss Rod Cover Les Paul Custom $19.99. Wow' date=' you must have tried the only SJ-200 dud in existence! Gibson used these bolts for 60+ years without a problem. Body size is pretty big but sound is weak. If so, pick the one that grabs you. buy an SJ-200 and let your worries fall by the wayside! 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